JUDGMENT Pasayat, J.- 1, These appeals involve identical issues and are therefore disposed of by this common judgment. 2. The Andhra Pradesh State Road Transport Corporation (in short "the Corporation") calls in question legality of the judgments rendered by the High Court holding that the respondent in each of the appeals was entitled to back wages. 3. A brief reference to the factual position which is almost undisputed would suffice: The respondents who claimed to be employees of the appellant Corporation claimed before the Labour Court, Hyderabad (in short "the Labour Court") that their services were illegally terminated. Reference was made by the State Government under the Industrial Disputes Act, 1947 (in short "the Act"). 4. The appellant Corporation took the stand that they were not its employees and. in fact were employees of independent contractors. The Labour Court did not accept the stand and held that the termination was bad and the applicants concerned were entitled to reinstatement. It is not in dispute that the appellant Corporation has reinstated the respondents. Subsequently the respondents; tiled application before the Labour Court stating that they were entitled to back wages for the period they were out or employment and they were entitled to he paid back wages in tents of section 33C (2) or the Act. 5. The Corporation resisted the claim on the ground that there was no direction for payment of back wages and. therefore section 33C (2) had no application. The Labour Court did not accept the stand and directed payment. Such adjudication was challenged before the High Court which dismissed the writ application. 6. Learned counsel for the appellant submitted that when the only direction given by the Labour Court was reinstatement, there was no question of payment of any back wages and in any event section 33C (2) bad no application. 7. Learned counsel for the respondents on the other hand submitted that when the reinstatement was directed back wages were the natural consequence. 8. The principle of law on point is no more res-integra. This Court in A.P. SRTC v. Narsagoud [ (2003) 2 SCC 212 ] succinctly crystallised the principle of law in para 9 of the judgment : "9. We find merit in the submission so made. 8. The principle of law on point is no more res-integra. This Court in A.P. SRTC v. Narsagoud [ (2003) 2 SCC 212 ] succinctly crystallised the principle of law in para 9 of the judgment : "9. We find merit in the submission so made. There is a difference between an order of reinstatement accompanied by a simple direction for continuity of service and a direction where reinstatement is accompanied by a specific direction that the employee shall be entitled to all the consequential benefits, which necessarily flow from reinstatement or accompanied by a specific direction that the employee shall be entitled to the benefit of the increments earned during the period of absence. In our opinion, the employee after having been held guilty of un authorised absence from duty, cannot Claim the benefit of increments notionally earned during .the period of unauthorised absence in the absence of a specific direction in that regard and merely because he has been directed to be reinstated with the benefit of continuity in service: 9. The above position was reiterated in A.P. SRTC v. Abdul Kareem [ (2005) 6 SCC 36 ] and in Rajasthan SRTC v. Shyam Bihari Lal Gupta [ (2005) 7 SCC 406 ]. 10. In State Bank of India v. Ram Chandra Dubey [(2001) I SCC 73] this Court held as under: "7. When a reference is made to an Industrial Tribunal to adjudicate the question not only as to whether the termination of a workman is justified or not but to grant appropriate relief, ·it would consist of examination of the question whether the reinstatement should be with full or partial back wages or none. Such a question is one of fact depending upon the evidence to be produced before the Tribunal. If after the termination of the employment, the workman is gainful1y employed elsewhere it is one of the factors to be considered in determining whether or not reinstatement should be with ful1 back wages or with continuity of employment. Such questions can be appropriately examined only in a reference. When a reference is made under section 10 of the Act, all incidental questions arising thereto can be determined by the Tribunal and in this particular case. a specific question has been referred to the Tribunal as to the nature of relief to be granted to the workman. Such questions can be appropriately examined only in a reference. When a reference is made under section 10 of the Act, all incidental questions arising thereto can be determined by the Tribunal and in this particular case. a specific question has been referred to the Tribunal as to the nature of relief to be granted to the workman. The principles enunciated in the decisions referred by either side can be summed up as fol1ows: Whenever a workman is entitled to receive from his employer any money or any benefit which is capable of being computed in terms of money and which he is entitled to receive from his employer and is denied of such benefit can approach Labour Court under section 33C (2) of the Act. The benefit sought to be enforced under section 33C (2) of the Act is necessarily a pre-existing benefit or one flowing from a pre-cxisting right. The difference between a pre-existing right or benefit on one hand and the right or benefit, which is considered just and fair on the other hand is vital. The former fal1s within jurisdiction of Labour Court exercising powers under section 33 C (2) of the Act while the latter does not. It cannot be spelt out from the award in the present case that such a right or benefit has accrued to the workman as the specific question of the relief granted is confined only to the reinstatement without stating anything more as to the back wages. Hence that relief must be deemed to have been denied for what is claimed but not granted necessarily gets denied in judicial or quasi judicial proceeding. Further when a question arises as to the adjudication of a claim for back wages, all relevant circumstances which will have to be gone into are to be considered in a judicious manner. Therefore, the appropriate forum wherein such question of back wages could be decided is only in a proceeding to whom a reference under section 10 of the Act is made. To state that merely upon reinstatement, a workman would be entitled under the terms of award, to all his arrears of pay and allowances would be incorrect because several factors will have to be considered as stated earlier, to find out whether the workman is entitled to back wages at all and to what extent. To state that merely upon reinstatement, a workman would be entitled under the terms of award, to all his arrears of pay and allowances would be incorrect because several factors will have to be considered as stated earlier, to find out whether the workman is entitled to back wages at all and to what extent. Therefore, we are of the view that the High Court ought not to have presumed that the award of the Labour Court for grant of back wages is implied in the relief of reinstatement or that the award of reinstatement itself conferred right for Claim of back wages," 11. The position was recently reiterated by a three-Judge Bench in State of U.P. v, Brijpal Singh [(200S) 8 SCC 58]. 12. The orders of the Labour Court as affirmed by the High Court are indefensible, deserve to be set aside which we direct. 13. The appeals are allowed but without any order as to costs.